ive got a fram everything is fine but i also change my oil every 3k just to be safe
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07-28-2010
ive got a fram everything is fine but i also change my oil every 3k just to be safe
07-28-2010
Meh...just wait.Originally Posted by 97prixgt
I use Mobil1 everything...hopefully their quality isn't crap. I don't cut open to inspect my filters though.
07-28-2010
Mobil 1 and K&N's are the premium filter made by champion labs.
Its a good filter, just overpriced.
07-29-2010
What happened here, someone from the company posts and everyone backs down? Come on!
motorking, you said you were starting with SuperSport, I'm anxious for you to continue.
07-30-2010
Because they know they don't have a strong enough leg to stand on......
Simple fact is, no matter what oil or filter you use, if you keep you oil changed, no matter what brand oil filter you have it will not have to work hard to keep the oil clean.
07-30-2010
But what does the Jeep Community say? They are the final word on everything. Let's ask them about what oil to buy, as well. Royal Purple, Mobil 1, or another synthetic?
I always ask the JEEP Community whenever I have a question regarding ANY vehicle. Because they know everything.
07-30-2010
This study does not use any SAE or ISO testing, it is merely one guys opinion after cutting open filters. He is a fan of Chrysler K cars hmm... And it is 15 yr oold information as well.
07-30-2010
This thread is full of owange...I can FEEL IT.
Like stated...I don't see the issue with any oil filter as long as your constantly changing them and using the correct specs for everything...I'm far form knowing much of anything about the design and build quality of oil filters...but hopefully my Mobil1 choices are correct...Motorking since you seem to be so knowledgable on the subject...care to explain where Mobil1 filters stand?
07-30-2010
my work uses filters that are notably worse than fram filters. They've been recalled on two separate occasions for quality control issues.
Used to be made by fram (okay then) now they're made in China and thats when the recalls started.
07-30-2010
Oh my, that's a whole 'nother conversation, there, my friend.
07-30-2010
So dont buy black label canadian tire oil filters.... Only red label ones.
07-31-2010
I used to have an F-150 that absolutely hated Canadian Tire oil filters.
I would floor it and it would lose all of its power.
Was finally told to ditch their weak ass filters and it fixed the problem.
Apparently the pressure would suck the element and it would practically crush inside the can.
Funnily enough I moved on to Fram and was fine!
12-10-2010
I haved recently heard that Fram will be supplying the Canadian Tire house brand filters beginning sometime in 2011.
12-10-2010
When I bought my filter about a week ago I did not have any of this information. Even then, it seemed that the extra guard filter was a better filter (even at a slightly higher price) than the ecore designs of the Delco and SuperTech. Now that I have this info I wish I would have spent a little more and gone with the synthetic as well. I only run synthetic oil and I agree with the previous comments on extended drains. The right oil is good for well over 7500 miles, and with a filter that will do the same it would save time and money over the long haul. Now that I know the dirt holding capacity and crucial specs of the various filters, I wish I had also gone with the better filter. Either way, I am satisfied that the Fram was the better choice at the time. This has been very informative, and I have not seen similar info posted from other companies with which to make a fair comparison. I think the old saying goes that information is king.
Edit: Just thought I would also throw out there that back in the day when I worked as a lube tech (~10 years ago or so), we would often use our filters (Delco, but back when they had better quality filters) and full synthetic that was good for extended drains, then we would recommend that they come in for just a filter change at 3-5k miles. This would refresh the filter and make sure it still had the dirt holding capacity, and of course a 1/2 to 1 quart of fresh oil to boost the life and base stocks of the oil. With the right oil and filter combination however, I don't believe this step would be necessary.
Last edited by 40th GP; 12-10-2010 at 09:45 AM. Reason: Addition
12-10-2010
I said "It sounded as if the poster is saying all Fram filters are made in the USA."
I did not say the poster said "all Fram products are made in the USA"
I did not say "the poster said all WIX filters are made in India"
I said "I didn't see any of their manufacturing facilities in India" (when I looked at their list on their website)
I did not say "products found in department stores = poor quality and are different than the 'same' product when purchased at NAPA"
I did say "I'm not saying that equates to poor quality"
I think I'm being fair on the comments I've made. I'm not bashing on your product in any way and I'm not bashing you in any way in this thread. I'm just posting up what I have learned.
12-10-2010
I'll be in contact. Thanks!Send me your address to jay.buckley@honeywell.com, first ones on me.
To my knowledge you used to make our filters till they decided to switch to china filters then had MAJOR issues... numerous recalls.
07-31-2010
were they black label filters?
Or were they red label?
07-31-2010
This was about 10 years ago. The can was white but for some reason I remember the letters being dark blue!
Must have been black letters. Definitely motomaster.
They have probably changed makers since then.
07-31-2010
SnowDrift,
seems like you could potentially get yourself a Fram factory tour courtesy of the pros. Might be interesting.
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