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    I have a brand new super charger for the 3800 series III motor, My question is what all would need to be done, I have tried every possible material online but they all go different angles. Any help would be greatly appreciated. If you need further information please feel free to ask.
    2004 Pontiac Grand Prix GT - 3800 Bored and Stroked
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    Read the top swap thread.
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    I searched for such a thread and was only able to see the series II top swap, this is for a series 3 3800, as for wanting to know what needs to be done, does the BCM and PCM need to swapped out, is there a big harness change or is there any relocation of certain engine components.
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    For your car you will need a gen 5 blower and the drive by wire tb to go with it. You will need a custom tune on you pcm. Most of the wiring is the same. That is about all I can tell you since I have never done the swap myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 01GTP View Post
    For your car you will need a gen 5 blower and the drive by wire tb to go with it. You will need a custom tune on you pcm. Most of the wiring is the same. That is about all I can tell you since I have never done the swap myself.

    Thanks for the info

    I found the thread you was stating and found the parts list, Looks like some work but then again performance is always work.



    PARTS LIST

    Heads from SC motor (Either Series will do, all the blocks are the came so all the heads can be interchanged)
    Head Bolts, can be OEM replacements or Studs, up to you(Stock are Torque to Yield(one time use)
    Thread Sealer (the head bolts go into the coolant jacket, and if they aren't sealed, they will weap coolant out)
    Head Gaskets
    Rocker boltsSame reason as the head bolts
    Valve Cover Gaskets
    Harmonic Balancer From the SC motor
    Tensioner for SC belt
    Idlers for Sc beltThese require bolts that aren't on the L26/L36
    Coil Pack BracketThe tensioner and one of the idlers bolt to the SC Coil bracket (some 97 and 98 cars may not need a different bracket)
    Lower Intake Manifold from the SC motor(The bolts are the same, so you can use your old LIM bolts if needed)
    Lower intake Manifold Gaskets(the Aluminum ones are the Best)
    Fuel Rail(you need the one that matches your fuel system, 97-03 gets the standard rail, while 04+ needs the return-less)
    Fuel InjectorsAre not a requirement, but you should run the SC injectors or better flowing units
    **Injector connectors may be required on some years
    Supercharger
    Supercharger Gasket(If you use a Gen III M90 you need O-rings as well)
    Supercharger Belt
    Throttle Body from SC motor(This isn't required but recommended)
    Throttle Body Gasket
    Colder Thermostat I Recommend 180*, but that is all personal preference
    1 Step Cooler Spark PlugsUsually recommended for the Top Swap
    Fluids Oil(a change needs to be done after Swap and before engine is started) Coolant(you will loose a good amount doing the Swap
    Oil FilterFor above change
    Tunned PCM Stock Gt settings are way too aggressive for a SC application, I suggest a tuner, but if you don't have time, a Canned tune can work
    Exhaust Manifold Gaskets (optional)
    2004 Pontiac Grand Prix GT - 3800 Bored and Stroked
    Stage 1 wing - Custom Tuned PCM (PRJ)
    GXP Suspension (Full Swap) - Complete Custom Exhaust
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