Performance Advice

**BoostedComp** · 07-23-2009

i think he was leaving smart ass comments because you offended him a little bit...

Originally Posted by gtryda

No offense but that seems about right thats until i found out that the mechanic used to work at milzeysmotorsports and specialized in grand prixs. People heard about him b4 said he builded 9 10, and 11, second 1/4 mile grand prixs quiet a few times b4. So professional mechanic for grand prixs vs blue gtp91 i think ill stay with the pros and he did say 180 t stat forgot to metion that 1. Thanks for the help tho

and last i knew... isnt milzeys specialized in grand ams and 3400 motors? (could be wrong.. sorry if i am) well good luck to you bluegtp has always been very intellegent on this matter... but check morads parts company when you need the new motor... he usually gives good deals and in regards to your gt beating and supercharged motor... he prob dropped to a 3.2 with the almighty 180 t-stat you would not beat any supercharged motor with a gt sorry

**gtryda** · 07-23-2009

Can people read or what i said i can ALMOST HANG with his gtx which is stock except for the factory slp exhaust and ram air but if i had mine supercharged with a reprogrammed chip ahd shift kit alone yeah i could beat a stock gt you GTP people underestimate the power of a pure 3.8 liter almost sound like cocky mutang guys.

**minichopper6hp** · 07-23-2009

im sure most of the m90 guys on here now what the 3800 is n/a, as they are not top swapped

**blueguy** · 07-23-2009

Originally Posted by gtryda

Can people read or what i said i can ALMOST HANG with his gtx which is stock except for the factory slp exhaust and ram air but if i had mine supercharged with a reprogrammed chip ahd shift kit alone yeah i could beat a stock gt you GTP people underestimate the power of a pure 3.8 liter almost sound like cocky mutang guys.

There are no chips. And it isn't pure power. It is called higher compression. Learn things before you start talking like a cocky mustang owner who thinks your GT almost hangs with a GTX. Because 2 seconds in the 1/4 isn't hanging...it is getting waxed.

**silverstreak** · 07-23-2009

Originally Posted by gtryda

Can people read or what i said i can ALMOST HANG with his gtx which is stock except for the factory slp exhaust and ram air but if i had mine supercharged with a reprogrammed chip ahd shift kit alone yeah i could beat a stock gt you GTP people underestimate the power of a pure 3.8 liter almost sound like cocky mutang guys.

Tell me, where is this "reprogrammed chip" you speak of? Furthermore, people were trying to help you and after reading this thread you seem to know it all and your going to do whatever you want. So go and drop pullies with your 180 t stat and reprogrammed fantasy chip and let us all know how it went. And when you blow your sh!t up we can probably help you find a good used engine.

**Liquifire** · 07-23-2009

Originally Posted by gtryda

Can people read or what i said i can ALMOST HANG with his gtx which is stock except for the factory slp exhaust and ram air but if i had mine supercharged with a reprogrammed chip ahd shift kit alone yeah i could beat a stock gt you GTP people underestimate the power of a pure 3.8 liter almost sound like cocky mutang guys.

Mustang guys..............

You are not making friends around here very fast. If you don't want to agree with all of the different people on here who own these cars, work on them, and have made some of the mistakes you are about to, that is fine. But don't ask for advice then. If you were looking to get support on here for doing things the "wrong way" good luck.........

**Liquifire** · 07-23-2009

Did you even read the modding your 3800 thread yet?

**Liquifire** · 07-23-2009

if you did then you would understand that you need to get rid of the u-bend, upgrade the downpipe and fix the front exhaust manifold first so that you can get rid of the exhaust coming out of the motor. Then the CAI, or FWI whatever to get more and/or colder air into the motor. Otherwise you are going to have KR pull your timing like a mother...........and any other mod will just cause problems.

**BoostedComp** · 07-23-2009

lol what is this "pure power" of the 3800 n/a? i have one in my driveway with an exhaust (no not cat back) the hv3 ported tb an intake and a reprogrammed pcm from intense... and i can assure you the stock gtp i just bought will whoop its ass anyday... dont get me wrong.. they are nice cars and pretty quick.. but they dont compare to having an m90 on top of the block

**gtryda** · 07-23-2009

When i say reprogrammed chip im talkin about a reprogrammed pcm i just call them a chip or computer module or whatever but i asked for performance advice not smart ass comments nobodys actually given me straight advice ass just **** talk with a lil ''i know more than you'' kinda thing.

**BoostedComp** · 07-23-2009

you were given advice... then you told the person who gave you the advice they are wrong... if you have a mechanic who builds 11 sec gtps why are you asking the forum anyway when you have him?

**silverstreak** · 07-23-2009

People gave you advice. They told you that you would need more than just a tune to safely drop a pulley size. You turned around and said your mechanic use to work for milzeysmotorsports and because of that our advice was no good. Go ahead and drop pulleys with just a tune and then let us know how much KR you have. You are going to scan for that after... right?

**Bio248** · 07-23-2009

do whatever you want. ill go home and cry because you didnt listen to me. im such a softy.

**BoostedComp** · 07-23-2009

haha ^^ big baby

**uNda6gT** · 07-23-2009

yea its a few A holes on here,were supposed to be helping each other out without the smart ass comments but whatever,anyway zzperformance has a stage 2 performance kit that has a tuned pcm,wizaired intake,2.5inch dp,180 tstat,3.4 pulley(modular pulley system) for a good price!

**Bio248** · 07-23-2009

that stage 2 kit is junk. just for your knowledge.

i mean...a wizaird and a 2.5" downpipe? those two items are just plain stupid to buy.

**gtryda** · 07-23-2009

Originally Posted by bluegtp91

It already shows your mechanic doesn't know anything...you can't just tune the PCM and drop a pulley size. That's noob sh*t. And a cam is good for more than 20hp I can vouch...I bet I added 50+ Horsepower when I did my cam swap...headers/LS1 TB/custom tune/ported supercharger/3.4" to a 3.2" pulley/XP Cam. Cams love to breathe...if your not going to take the time to mod safe and correctly then don't mod at all and save your motor.

Thats what post that started the whole thing and im the one who talkin **** to about ''help''? Yall 3 must be friends tryin to do some tag team trash talk or somethin. If ya not gonna give me some straight up answers isteaad just trash talk then why post

**BoostedComp** · 07-23-2009

im pretty sure it all started when bluegtp tried to give you advice and you flat out told him he was wrong... just my .02
but i agree with unda6 this place should be friendly and helpful... it just gets sketchy when people talk down the "help" they receive..

**Bio248** · 07-23-2009

i am all about helping people out. i have been since the start. blue actually took the time to write out a post, but the knowledge really came from the few of us that have been here from the start. i can give you all the advice in the world if you want to know what to do with your car and actually have real goals, but if youre going to tell us that we are wrong from some guys who supposedly built our motors then by all means learn on your own.

your car looks nice (if that is the one in your sig), btw.