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    2008 Grand Prix
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    3.8L Series III

    This does not happen all of the time, but, occasionally, when I try to start it, turn the key and it will try to start but won't. If give it just a little throttle it will start up every time.

    A few things that I am guessing would be:
    Fuel pump
    Fuel Filter
    Idle air bypass

    Is the pump filter a single unit?

    Wondering if anyone else has had this experience and could help me rule somethings out before throwing money at it.

    Thanks,
    John
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    FYI 130k miles, fuel pump filter IAB all original
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    it happen on cold starts only? if so then the iac could be bad.

    98 Buick Regal GS, F body brakes, Caddy STS wheels, tinted tails L36 bottom end, lightly ported heads, 1.95 roller rockers, headers, gen 5 N* 3.0 pulley, FSIC, 42 lb injectors, a BrandonHall rebuilt trans, DHP tuned and AEM water/Meth injection https://goo.gl/gpV5kW
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    Or if it's hot starts only I would investigate the Fuel pressure Regulator.

    Does your coolant temp gauge work properly?

    Pinpointing a common denominator in these cases is very helpful
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    Quote Originally Posted by onxy View Post
    Or if it's hot starts only I would investigate the Fuel pressure Regulator.

    Does your coolant temp gauge work properly?

    Pinpointing a common denominator in these cases is very helpful
    pretty sure the fpr is in the gas tank on a 08, not on the rail like the older cars. and those dont seem to fail. at least ive never heard of one failing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottydoggs View Post
    pretty sure the fpr is in the gas tank on a 08, not on the rail like the older cars. and those dont seem to fail. at least ive never heard of one failing.
    that's highly likely. I can't seem to remember a FPR on a l26 rail.

    In any case, it sounds like a fuel mixture issue. Either too much/too little fuel, or it's having a hard time metering air. Data logs would help, or ability to monitor live data, otherwise it's just guesses.
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    I can only remember it happening on cold start, will check with daughter.

    You mention data logging, the only thing that I have is a Bluetooth OBD2 reader, it has some data logging, what should I log, or is this not available?

    Thanks for all input.
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    id find a cheap iac valve "idle air control" for cheap on ebay and toss it on the tb. local parts store will want retard money for it. ebay 20 bucks or so.

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