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  1. #1 2006 Grand Prix Timing chain scraping on front cover 
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    As the title says the timing chain is scraping on the front cover. We've changed the timing chain and gear and put on a ZZP Double thick gasket and it still scrapes. When we tore it apart to change the timing chain gasket because it was leaking it didn't scrape so I have no idea why it is now scraping, the noise isn't coming from anything belt related either, What could it be scraping on? I'm clueless.
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    Are you sure you got the timing chain/gear set pushed all the way onto the camshaft and crankshaft? That's the only thing I can think of.
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    The stock style chain is hitting the cover?


    2001 GTP Drag Car - XPZ, Tischler heads, Upsidedown M90 IC'd, e85, Gen V, 2.3 w/ 5%OD
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTPpower View Post
    The stock style chain is hitting the cover?
    Right. I'm not sure that's where the noise is.

    Have a stethoscope or long screwdriver?
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    Quote Originally Posted by J7319M View Post
    Are you sure you got the timing chain/gear set pushed all the way onto the camshaft and crankshaft? That's the only thing I can think of.
    Its pushed back all the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTPpower View Post
    The stock style chain is hitting the cover?
    Yes, stock style chain
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    Where is it hitting at? On the crank area or cam?


    2001 GTP Drag Car - XPZ, Tischler heads, Upsidedown M90 IC'd, e85, Gen V, 2.3 w/ 5%OD
    2005 F350 6.0 - studded, deleted, tuned
    2001 GTP - cam, headers, nitrous, stock trans - 11.83 @ 116 <$2k in mods - sold
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    stupid question, but what was the condition of the dampner?
    old setup-Z7 Turbo Kit w/T66, A2A I/C, stock cam & valvetrain/LS1 MAF/Ported 99TB/PowrTuner/AFC/Devils Own/LS1M Scanner/PRJ FP/42# Injs=12.3@118mph street tires -
    (Sold)BACK TO M90 Vs cam w/3.5" pulley/meth/25* timing+bolt-ons
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTPpower View Post
    Where is it hitting at? On the crank area or cam?
    It is scraping on the oil pump cover.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fst View Post
    stupid question, but what was the condition of the dampner?
    Brand new
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    Quote Originally Posted by ttedesco View Post
    It is scraping on the oil pump cover.
    A stock chain should never hit there. Does your crank have a lot of endplay?


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    Quote Originally Posted by GTPpower View Post
    A stock chain should never hit there. Does your crank have a lot of endplay?
    No it doesn't move at all.
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    When did you start having the problem?


    2001 GTP Drag Car - XPZ, Tischler heads, Upsidedown M90 IC'd, e85, Gen V, 2.3 w/ 5%OD
    2005 F350 6.0 - studded, deleted, tuned
    2001 GTP - cam, headers, nitrous, stock trans - 11.83 @ 116 <$2k in mods - sold
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTPpower View Post
    When did you start having the problem?
    I had to change the timing chain cover gasket because it was leaking coolant from behind the cover.
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    Did you replace the chain at the same time? Or was that later?


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    2005 F350 6.0 - studded, deleted, tuned
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTPpower View Post
    Did you replace the chain at the same time? Or was that later?
    At first I didn't change the timing chain but after it made the scraping noise I put a new chain on and after putting a new chain on it is still making the scraping sound.
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    I don't really know what else to tell you. There is a ton of room in there so it should never even be close to touching. Something has to be installed incorrectly.


    2001 GTP Drag Car - XPZ, Tischler heads, Upsidedown M90 IC'd, e85, Gen V, 2.3 w/ 5%OD
    2005 F350 6.0 - studded, deleted, tuned
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    Are you positive it's the chain and not one of the tabs on the back of the balancer that got bent and is hitting the crank sensor?
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