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    Is it normal to have 19° of timing advance on a l36?

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    It's a huge timing table. Can you be more specific ?
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    Not really I'm a newbie at modding motors but I just got the torque pro app and under the timing advance section it shows 19° of timing advance and that seemed like a lot.

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    That was at idol

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    Idle*

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    thats normal, you n/a guys hit like 32 or so iirc wot.

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    Thanks scotty! Also now that Ive been messing with the torque pro app it has a lot of cool stuff like vacuum pressure and MAF reading the only problem is I don't know what there supposed to be reading so is there a write up or something that shows normal reading for these sensors so I can tell if I'm on point?

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    I get about the same. At 70mph 1800ish RPM I'm looking at 30+ degrees advanced timing.
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    theres very few things worth watching really. all i watch is ltft, stft, o2 voltage will tell you if your o2 is lazy, trans temp, coolant temp stuff like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TemplesofLamneth View Post
    I get about the same. At 70mph 1800ish RPM I'm looking at 30+ degrees advanced timing.
    That isnt the same. Timing at idle , timing at cruise and timing at wot and everything in between.


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    heres what your table looks like for the most part, this is a 200 gp


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    Why does 02 voltage matter what does it mean if its "lazy" and what is ltft & stft?

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    Ty guys for the tables

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    ltft= long term fuel trims.

    stft = short term fuel trims.

    the o2 voltage should dance up and down fast, if it dont its slow and not working right any more.

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    But let's say it stops working properly does that mean poor performance or what exactly?

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    hell yeah. run piss poor, set the cel when its real bad.

    mine was slow and old as dirt, so it got changed. new one was much faster. ( the volts that is)

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    Well see I'm trying to figure out if I have a vac leak or something else cause I get 16mpg city and I would think I could at least get 18 I don't drive with that lead of a foot lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazyguy03 View Post
    That isnt the same. Timing at idle , timing at cruise and timing at wot and everything in between.

    No ****. I was telling OP I get the same at idle with my L26 and telling him what my cruise timing was. WOT is about 17° on my vehicle.
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    16 all local is pretty good. its not a new car any more. if its all stop and go like i got here you doing pretty good really. im at 14 all the time.

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    As far as torque goes getting real time readings depends a lot on how good of a Bluetooth OBD dongle you have. If you got a cheap chinese made one invest in a better one with a faster refresh rate.
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