new water pump now car is over heating

**csanderlin** · 12-31-2012

well my wife was driving the car other day and the water pump decided to seize and drove it hot for 10 miles she was in the hood. well i replaced the water pump thermostat and radiator cap. well went put in stright antifreeze and opened both air valves to let air out well now my service engine light comes on randomly and runs like **** smokes bad and smells like rubber. i know i can drive it to advanced to check it but it wont make it around the block without over heating also no heat eather. i need help asap i got to report back in by weds please help

**GTX** · 12-31-2012

id say make sure you purged all air out the cooling system .... turn on the heater and let it warm up..eventually it should burp itself...if not...you might have blown a head gasket on your hands...

**csanderlin** · 12-31-2012

it just werid how it drives fine for a little while then like **** if it was head gasket wouldnt wouldnt it run like **** all the time

**csanderlin** · 12-31-2012

also oil looks fine no white smoke it like black

**Scottydoggs** · 12-31-2012

turning the heater on is of no help, coolant flows to the core all the time. the core could be air locked and needs to be flushed. take both hoses off the alt bracket, and then flush with a garden hose.

but that wont cause over heating. chances are you have air still in the engine (you need to bleed it when the engine is warmed up enough to open the t stat.)

you can also take the t stat housing back off and fill the engine from that hole, till its full, then put the t stat back in, make sure its not upside down too.

do not use straight antifreeze either, unless its the 50/50 blend pre mixed.

i use one gallon of full strength coolant, and top off with hose water.

**csanderlin** · 12-31-2012

what best wait to tell if head gasket is blown

**Scottydoggs** · 12-31-2012

one of these works

and if you rev the engine when its warmed up if you see bubbles in the rad, cap open of course.

or do a compression test.

**JLiss** · 12-31-2012

best way to check if you blew a head gasket is for oil to be in your coolant resevoir.

**csanderlin** · 12-31-2012

no oil in it .when i start up the car a big thing of water came out after it didnt

**JLiss** · 12-31-2012

are you sure did you remove the resevoir and pour some out, dont go off eye contact. is it blue smoke? or white smoke? what does the smoke smell like?

next drain some oil, and check for coolant as well.

**Scottydoggs** · 12-31-2012

Originally Posted by JLiss

best way to check if you blew a head gasket is for oil to be in your coolant resevoir.

that is almost impossible to happen.

head gaskets when blown eat coolant. ask me how i know?

**csanderlin** · 12-31-2012

blue and smells like plastic

**csanderlin** · 12-31-2012

ill take video in morning

**Scottydoggs** · 12-31-2012

blue smoke and smells out the tail pipe?

**JLiss** · 12-31-2012

Originally Posted by csanderlin

blue and smells like plastic

Originally Posted by scottydoggs

that is almost impossible to happen.

head gaskets when blown eat coolant. ask me how i know?

it is HARDLY impossible my friend that is the one trick to see if you in-deed blew a headgasket, is it POSSIBLE there isnt any oil in there with a blown head gasket yes.

another thing you can do is Remove dipstick and let a drop of fluid fall on hot part of engine - oil will smoke water will "sizzle", if blue smoke is coming out the tail that is a sign that oil is burning.

**Scottydoggs** · 12-31-2012

the only real way oil is getting into coolant is from a blown oil cooler in the radiator. these car dont usually have that option.

coolant in the oil pan can happen. but it would also have to seep in through the pistons, past the rings, and im sure it would of hydro locked long before you found coolant in the oil.

if you see sludge in the over flow, thats dex coolant residue.

**Swiggles** · 12-31-2012

Originally Posted by scottydoggs

the only real way oil is getting into coolant is from a blown oil cooler in the radiator. these car dont usually have that option.

coolant in the oil pan can happen. but it would also have to seep in through the pistons, past the rings, and im sure it would of hydro locked long before you found coolant in the oil.

if you see sludge in the over flow, thats dex coolant residue.

That's correct, coolant is water with some antifreeze and some other chemicals but its mostly water, it will steam clean your cylinders and won't make it back to the reservoir. Or it will drain down into the oil pan. Dexcool likes to sludge up and it looks like it could be oil, especially if a different color coolant has been added to top it off.

**csanderlin** · 12-31-2012

**Scottydoggs** · 12-31-2012

that looks like its over heating bad in the vid. take the t stat out, and run it again if the same thing is happening, id say the head gaskets are blown for sure.