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    Is it possible to swap a TB from a 3.8 onto a 3.1 motor?
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    If I remember correctly, the 3.1 has an oval throttle body, while the 3.8 is round, but anything is possible, you would have to make an adapter plate most likely
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    My wifes GA has a 3.1L motor and I do believe it has an oval TB. But I dont think it is oval on the side that connects to the intake manifold. I can check if I dont forget if you need me to.
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    I have a 3.1 gp and yes the outlet is oval. also I think its the MAF sensor is a seporate unit
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    Well then, I stand corrected. I didnt think hers was an oval outlet. My bad.
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    On a 3.8 where is the MAF sensor?
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    Mounted physically to the TB, on the top side of it.
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    do you maybe have a picture of it. the only pics I can find are of engines that have the cover on or just the tb off the car
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    Let me see what I can dig up for you. Might take me a few minutes. If I dont have one I got two in the garage I can take a picture of.
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    nevermind I found a pic on wbs
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    I didnt realize that was the sensor
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    next question is how would the pcm react to the new tb
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    Generally speaking, that large of a TB is going to require some tuning via the PCM. How much you can get away with and what any ill effects there would be Im not sure. I would say that that much more air would have you running incredibly rich and being too rich can be just as problematic as too lean.
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    thanks
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    You are more than welcome.
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    Which 3.1 do you have? Is the 8th vin digit t or m> If the digit is an m then the throttle body is made into the intake like the 3.4 dohc vin x engine is but. On the vin t 3.1 engine the part of the tb were u connect theair duct to it oval but the uim said is round.
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    the 8th is a J
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    so are you saying I might be able to use a tb from a 3.4? BTW I should have mentioned this earlier but I have a 2003 GP
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    yeah it definitely has an oval intake thinger mer bobber... the MAF is also seperate. we got the shaft on that.. it sucks if you want a sweet intake because it kinda looks ****ty with the MAF
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    I just went ahead and made a FWI from the end of the MAF yesterday. it looks decent but sounds awsome at WOT.
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