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    awesome ill print this out and give to my my mechanic, gonna do this in the inlaws garage.
    what do i replace the white lube scoop with? just a new one?

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    Take the one out the trans you are pulling the gears from. I suspect it's black.
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    Weird. You'd think the newer trans would have the better one.
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    The scoop is slightly longer on one of them. It's just to accomodate the size of the gear in the back.
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    Oh ok. So use the longer one,gotcha.
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    Use the one that comes out with the other gearset.
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    ok will do.

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    so what i highlighted in red is the sungear?

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    Part 866, it's a reluctor tooth ring

    http://www.automaticchoice.com/uploa...ogue/4t65e.pdf

    The sungear is oddly not labeled in the diagram. Use the box labeled J and it's between 863 and 664

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    the black scoop is the longest for the small driven gear of the 2.93 gear sets.
    the white/tan is the 3.29 scoop.

    i believe the 3.69 chain sets had a pink scoop. which is nearly the same as a tan/white with the tip broken off
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    James..

    Do you mean
    37/33
    35/35
    33/37
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    so counted the teeth on the sungear and it has 34 teeth! so all i need do is take my 35/35 sprocket and chain from the impala trans and swap into the buick trans and throw the 3:29 diff in! then get retuned

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    Wait..

    The diff and sungear are paired. You should swap both together or never at all. I thought we did the math and came up with wrong drive/driven gearing (although no tech info seems to show this possible in an NA trans that year) and the 3.05 diff?
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    what i have in the 2011 buick tran is the 3:05 diff AND 3:05 sungear from the old impala trans

    what i have on my shelf is the buick diff and sungear, which is 3:29.

    i just got done researching many sites, and the 2011 buick with the 3.9l has a 2:93 final drive ratio.
    http://diffeelincoln.com/Oklahoma-Ci...-Car/38251826/
    http://www.townsedge.com/Details.cfm...ntain-Lake-MN/
    http://www.harborcars.com/inventory/...HJ5EM4BU106211
    http://www.thecarconnection.com/car-...ncoln_mks_2011

    All 4 sites are saying so.

    So 3.29 diff on 37/33 gears = 2.93

    but i threw in my 3.05 diff on 37/33 gears = 2.72 my current ratio(confirmend by overkill)

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    Ahhh ok. Getting confused w/o enough coffee
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    ive been confused ever since we did this trans swap lmao, I have learned so much on these transmissions in the last few weeks lols.
    so i guess there is a 2:93 trans that went into a n/a car and just my luck i would grab it lol.
    thanks for all your help bill. when the all the gears get swapped and tune is done ill update you on success or failure lol.

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    Not going to do a top speed run with the tall gearing before it goes?
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    no, might go to the track just to see the difference 3:29's will make.....maybe.

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    so really considering buying 3:69 as i got the money in my wallet just sitting there lol.
    so i just buy this http://zzperformance.com/3800/transm...rsion-kit.html and get it installed and retuned?
    I been reading and some people have issues shift at WOT after... is that a tune issue, or do i need to change out this"reluctor wheel"?

    want no hiccups if i go threw with this.

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    hey Bill(or anyone)do i need any news gaskets when swapping gears?

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