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  1. #1 07 GP GXP - Slipping in first gear 
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    I purchased this 07 GXP brand new, and have always had a 1st gear slipping issue from a dead stop. All other gear shifts are fine. The unit is still under a GMPP Major Guard warranty for another year.

    When I'm at a stop, I'll take my foot off the brake and accelerate (fast or slow doesn't matter) and every once in awhile it'll move slowly forward, like it's only getting about 1/4 power, and then the transmission will thump into gear and jerk the car forward. It's gotten to the point where I can feel the car isn't moving ahead with the amount of gas I'm giving it, so I'll let off the gas for a moment and re-accelerate and everything is fine. No violent thumping. In the last few months it's gotten worse. Several times now I'll be rolling up to a red light, and almost come to a stop when the light turns green. When I go to accelerate, it slips. The slip time ranges from an instant to between 1-2 seconds (an eternity).

    It used to be months between the slipping, but as the years have gone by it's gotten worse. I've had it into the dealership at least 3 times now, with the first time being early on when I had the car. It happened so infrequently, they couldn't do anything because they couldn't reproduce it. Then a year or two ago it happened several times in one day and I brought it there the next day. Naturally, they could still never reproduce it. Fast forward a year or so and I take it in again, since I had another issue where the headlights started going off without warning. So I had them look at the transmission again while it was there. They topped off the fluid, found a leaking fitting and replaced it, and sent me on my way. It didn't slip for about 2 weeks or so after that trip (and it had been slipping every other day or so) and I thought it actually was fixed. Unfortunately, it started slipping and has been almost every day (it's worse during the fall/winter when it's cold). The slipping happens in a ratio of once every 20-30 times I accelerate. Sometimes, though, it'll go a day or two with no slipping. It's odd. Last week my wife got fed up and took it in again. They still couldn't get it to happen, and found 2 crushed motor mounts, and replaced them and said that was it. Took a couple days after getting it back and it slipped again.

    They mentioned if the mounts didn't resolve it, they'd likely have to tear into the transmission to find out what's up. They sounded reluctant, maybe because it's under warranty and they have to justify it without reproducing it? I don't know but it's like they were trying to talk me out of it. Maybe they think they'll have my car out of commission for weeks/months or something?

    Is there anything they can look at that doesn't require ripping into the transmission? Or is that the only way? I've read about a few issues on here, which sound pretty similar to my issue. I'd like to try to gather up some information and bring it to them in case I get some sort of resistance in them wanting to fix this. I thought about driving around with them and trying to make it happen, but there's been days where it just doesn't happen.

    Naturally I'd like to get this done while I still have a warranty, and still have plenty of time left on the warranty in case their "fix" doesn't work.
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    There is a ton of info here for that problem. It is typically called the rev and clunk. The dealer should fix it, but that problems tends to be a bit common.
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    Thanks for the info! The phrase pulled up a very interesting thread that mentioned that transmission codes are typically not stored after the key is turned off. This would likely be why they reported no stored codes. Will an old copy of Autotap (2000-2001) be able to pull transmission codes that are temporarily stored?

    If I could get a temporary transmission code after it happens, it'll give them something to work with.
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    Just beat the **** out of it and mess the trans up so they have to fix it.
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    Don't think that hasn't crossed my mind! After the 3rd or 4th time of them telling me they couldn't reproduce it, I figured the next time it slips I'll floor it. Unfortunately, it'll probably rip the transmission out and leave it a twisted mess under the car and they'll tell me it was abuse (abuse?! Naaaaaaaaaah). That's the only thing preventing me from doing it!
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    Don't just floor it but give it some gas when it does it for a few weeks i'm sure it'll get bad enough for them to reproduce it.
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    I'll try, but the darn thing is being uncooperative. I've had some pretty hard slipping shifts lately. A couple weeks ago the whole family was in the car. I started accelerating and wasn't paying close attention and it slipped and slammed hard into gear and snapped everyone back. The kids thought I'd been rear-ended, and the wife was pissed about the slipping and took it into the dealership a few days later. I've been hoping it would get to some point where they could reproduce it and finally see what I'm talking about. Finding some posts on the forum, though, I see this is a pretty common thing. They likely know about it, but are maybe holding out until the warranty expires.
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    I have an identical issue. I have an extended warranty on mine and they are doing everything they can to not fix this issue. I even have a thread here describing the same issue as you. I am going to take in in after Christmas since its happening more now that its cold. I also had the dreaded grind shift one time and I about crapped my pants so I know its getting worse. I can reproduce the problem almost on a regular basis. If I come close to a stop but dont stop completely, lets say 5 mph and then give it about 1/3 throttle it will jerk to 1st gear. It happens at random when I am at a stop but now that I know how to reproduce the issue I should be able to demonstrate it for them and get them to either service or repair the tranny.

    Be diligent. The dealers always try to find the cheapest way out of things if they can.

    Speaking of codes. I have ScanXL with the enhanced PIDs. I will have to run a monitor while I am driving and see if it trips any tranny codes. I have never used ScanXL when I am driving only when parked so it wouldnt trip a code. Something I will have to try and log the next time I am out.
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    What really sucks is when my wife took my car in, it was a couple weeks after the last time I had it in, and it was actually there for the intermittent headlamps issue and the transmission issue. Neither were fixed from the first visit. She never would do something like that, but was pissed with the car. Anyways, she took it in while I was at work, and explained what was happening, and even mentioned it started slipping during a rolling stop/start, which it hasn't done before. I figured that was a pretty important clue pointing to things getting worse. No car I've ever driven ever did that. You know what they told her? It's just the transmission trying to protect itself and is completely normal.

    Huh?

    That's why I'm worried they're going to try to delay and put this off as long as possible. I'll bring it in on Monday, since I need the car this weekend and we'll see what happens.... again. At least now I have more information, and know that this is a common situation with this transmission.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinch View Post
    What really sucks is when my wife took my car in, it was a couple weeks after the last time I had it in, and it was actually there for the intermittent headlamps issue and the transmission issue. Neither were fixed from the first visit. She never would do something like that, but was pissed with the car. Anyways, she took it in while I was at work, and explained what was happening, and even mentioned it started slipping during a rolling stop/start, which it hasn't done before. I figured that was a pretty important clue pointing to things getting worse. No car I've ever driven ever did that. You know what they told her? It's just the transmission trying to protect itself and is completely normal.

    Huh?

    That's why I'm worried they're going to try to delay and put this off as long as possible. I'll bring it in on Monday, since I need the car this weekend and we'll see what happens.... again. At least now I have more information, and know that this is a common situation with this transmission.
    I've been having the same issue, it's acted up a lot more recently, I've got the 05 comp get and also have experienced the car jerking while trying to barley trying to maintain speed. Acceleration is fine but treading water doesn't seem to be good for it. Have you gotten any new info? I'm out of warranty and wondering what I should realistically do...
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    My 06 GXP is having the same issues, nothing consistent; will do it once or twice when trans is still cold then wont do it for weeks. Is this an easy fix or expensive if taken to the dealership? I was planning on a tranny cooler, shift kit and changing trans fluid would this help with my issues? My car only has 36k miles I wouldnt expect to have any kind of issues like this.
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    I hate to bring up an old thread, but I have the same exact problem with my GP and was wondering if anyone has ever been able to solve this issue without installing a new transmission? The odd thing is I just sold a Buick Lesabre with the same transmission, and the same exact issue! I am really beginning to wonder just how common this issue is? And if it is really common, why hasn't GM done anything about it?
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    My car has this issue but it happens extremely rarely. Some Lucas stopslip and a shift kit made it less frequent. To the point where it hasn't happened for months.
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