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  1. #1 Well this looks like the end 4t65e 
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    Today on my way home while in blizzard conditions my trans started hard shifting @ 104k I pulled the dtcs and had the dreaded P1811 hard shift code cleared and it stopped but what really is sad is when I pulled the dipstick :


    I just checked the fluid like 2 weeks ago and it was fine not burnt or brown

    I just got this f*cking car in november with 98k and it has done nothing but bend me over like a red headed step child END RANT
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    So what color is it? A blue towel doesn't show it well lol. Looks tan to me. It smells burnt? I'd say you just need some maintenance, a shift kit, and depending on the conditions maybe something did fail. If it only happens on a long drive the maintenance may be all thats needed. I was in the same situation a few months ago minus the fluid color issue and I fixed it on my own.
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    Maybe it's just acting up. It seems like your car has brend going a lot of acting up
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    Quote Originally Posted by 02NavyBlue View Post
    So what color is it? A blue towel doesn't show it well lol. Looks tan to me. It smells burnt? I'd say you just need some maintenance, a shift kit, and depending on the conditions maybe something did fail. If it only happens on a long drive the maintenance may be all thats needed. I was in the same situation a few months ago minus the fluid color issue and I fixed it on my own.
    The first time I cleaned the dipstick it was grey the times after it was brownish red sorry about the towel doesn't really have a smell only when im driving in the city it acts up stop and go traffic and today it was snowing which probably is even harder on the trans considering my tcs isnt working due to a speed sensor maybe a shift kit and a drop n fill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theaceofspades View Post
    Maybe it's just acting up. It seems like your car has brend going a lot of acting up
    Yeah its being a bastard child lately
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    Shift kit/ pan fluid first before you panic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2007GPGTSC View Post
    The first time I cleaned the dipstick it was grey the times after it was brownish red sorry about the towel doesn't really have a smell only when im driving in the city it acts up stop and go traffic and today it was snowing which probably is even harder on the trans considering my tcs isnt working due to a speed sensor maybe a shift kit and a drop n fill
    Brownish red is just an indication that it's original at 104k miles. Not a big deal, I don't normally see the issue with the 04+ 4t65e's but I know it's possible. Do what redcompg and I said, it will most likely fix it.
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    Is a shift kit hard to do?
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    I know theres a million right ups
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    i have found that even red fluid on a white napkin can still look brownish to the eye. i usually let it drip on something i can see to verify true color. and if you wipe the stick fresh out the tranny you're going to have clutch material on the dipstick and it'll come off black. i bet a pan drop and shift kit and you'll be fine for a while
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2007GPGTSC View Post
    Is a shift kit hard to do?
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    I know theres a million right ups
    No it's not hard to do. There are a few write-ups around but the only one I know of on these forums is the one I wrote, which is here http://www.grandprixforums.net/showthread.php?t=79486
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    2003 Grand Prix GTP-3.5 setup, sold it, miss it
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    So basically its a standard drop n fill but I take out the accumulator and drop in a shim and put it back together?
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    drop in a shim or two and a spring or two. pretty much. scuff up the sides.

    you can make homemade shift kits.
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    I want something that is daily drivable this isnt going to make it shift really firm or hard
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    That's a transgo then. They're going for around $45 on ebay. You don't really notice a difference from normal operation unless you're getting on it. Then it's just like theres a perf shift option on. But it will make a difference during normal driving if there's an issue with shift times.
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    Yup stick with trans go then. Intense or thrasher kits if you really want to snap your neck
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    Sweet I have looked at them before just never thiuggt about getting one... what about a trans cooler? Also what would be a step up from a transgo?
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    i had a transgo. it was okay but i think if i was to do it again i'd do the intense one. i like neck snapping shifts.
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    Buy the TransGo.....I've seen 10x worse still kicking thousands of miles later. Don't panic...
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