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02-26-2017
Does any one have a diagram or link of the bolts lengths? There are 3 or more different lengths. I do have torque specs, but I'd love it if I could have a length diagram. I will be remove my valve body today. I am new to this forum and I cannot find a search box. In the mean time I will take lots of pics and measure everything off.
2002 Park Avenue Ultra 3800 supercharged.
02-26-2017
Do you have the rebuild manual?
02-26-2017
No, I am going off all-data and consensus on line. I am changing out the solenoids and the 4th clutch hub.
Today I pulled the valve body and separator plate. Since I didn't have a printed guide on the bolts I used the information I did have to identify them. So that's done. It just took some extra time.
I replaced the 4th clutch hub with a hardened spline one. Now I am reassembling things and some questions have come up. When I separated the valve body from the cover plate 2 small check balls came loose along with a hollow roll pin sorta piece. I still am going to fish in my catch pan to see if any thing else popped out. I am going to screen it as I pour it off.
I am about to search for those ball's and pin's locations.
I have to source and order a trans wiring harness because I gorilla'd 2 of the keepers that secure the plugs in the left side of the valve body. And I have to get a fluid dam because I slipped while installing the plate and broke the dam.
I'm doing some searching now. If any one on here is sharp on these items I'd appreciate any guidance or ideas to move me along.
02-26-2017
crap-ola you leave a few bolts in and the whole valve body comes out as one part, so it wont split and let the balls come out of place.
damn this was a fight for even me to find. http://www.grandprixforums.net/threa...e-cover-access
02-26-2017
I finally found the tiny little search prompt. It's top right.
Thanks for digging out the spot on the balls though.
02-26-2017
that search thing sucks here, best to use google start your search with "grandprixforums" then what your looking for. if you know the thread name, or the persons s/n who posted, add that and things come up much faster.
02-26-2017
Great idea. thanks.
Now I have to find out how to reassemble the things I shouldn't have unbolted.
What a dope I was, I had that thread in my mind and didn't remember where it was.
02-26-2017
theres a few guys here who have fully rebuilt trannys and have the diagram for the v/b. im sure they will find your thread soon.
theres also a few full rebuild vids on you tube.
02-26-2017
So I'm doing OK. I found a checkball chart. But that piece I called a hollow drift pin is more likely a bushing. Still gotta determine where it belongs.
Looks like I might be ordering a rebuild book.
02-26-2017
some one here did a vid as well, just came to mind, as he takes it apart hes bagging tagging everything.
just found this, thanks google lol http://www.gmforum.com/4t65e-hd-147/
02-26-2017
found this one too http://pontiacbonnevilleclub.com/for...php?f=8&t=1483 its got pics of the check balls in place with trans goop in the one 1/2. pic are down at the bottom of the vb install part of it all.
02-26-2017
Thanks.
I found it in the ATSG service manual. The piece I was trying to find actually IS a locating pin. For future reference if any one comes across this string, it's on page 38 of the ATSG manual figure 51 and it's item 410. Whew!
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