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    Quote Originally Posted by wstefan20 View Post
    Oh ok! I thought this was the one in your car! Lol

    I'd bet there's a hole in the trans pan right under here where they drill to release fluid. This is the 1-2 accumulator. If the damage is just the drill, you can swap your old one in no problem.

    I'd look into doing a shift kit while you're there and I'm a fan of sonnax lube tube retainer while the pan's off.

    If it isn't damage by the drill, I wouldn't touch this transmission unless you're doing a rebuild.

    Also, just checking, this isn't the comp-g one we told you wouldn't work is it?
    Shift Kit and sonnax lube tube retainer? The drill didbt damage it though. Anything else I should look into while I have it out?

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    my trans stopped moving, were i didnt have the sludge you have. i had chunks, top right of the pan, al that silver is chunks on the gasket, thats the side i drained it from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by showtastiik View Post
    Shift Kit and sonnax lube tube retainer? The drill didbt damage it though. Anything else I should look into while I have it out?

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    The lube tube retainer goes on the other tubes and prevents them from pulling out. It's actually a fairly common problem. The retainer is cheap insurance. That and the shift kit should be good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottydoggs View Post
    my trans stopped moving, were i didnt have the sludge you have. i had chunks, top right of the pan, al that silver is chunks on the gasket, thats the side i drained it from.

    Wow, chunks!.. I dont have any chunks in mine but definitely sparkling dust fragments. Bad sign still?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wstefan20 View Post
    The lube tube retainer goes on the other tubes and prevents them from pulling out. It's actually a fairly common problem. The retainer is cheap insurance. That and the shift kit should be good.
    Oh ok, I'll get on that than... Is it better to switch to an Aluminium Oil Pan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by showtastiik View Post
    Wow, chunks!.. I dont have any chunks in mine but definitely sparkling dust fragments. Bad sign still?

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    Yeah. Still not a good sign especially with all the clutch mud. Too bad you don't live closer or I'd rebuild it for you! Keep the old trans pan since they drilled the jy one.

    And not really any major advantage except no chance of it rusting out. Though I wouldn't bother personally. Its up to you!
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    The advantage is ... (go find my write up)
    -it's structural so a block of wood under it when you swap engine mounts will never damage it.
    -It's easier to swap bad engine mounts.
    -It's less prone to leaking because it uses an engine sealant and not a gasket
    -It never rusts

    If yours isn't leaking.. maybe buy one and put it on your bucket list. Don't change a non-leaking pan though.

    I'm not sure you want to use that trans. Scotty's ... the fluid had been changed out a few times in it's past. I'd bet that car has the full 112 or so on the same trans fluid.
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    Yeah, I found it yesterday. A lot of ppl had mix emotions about it, keeping it in the gray area. But me, having it in person and actually taking it off, your points above are definitely true and make sense. My original steel oil pan is caked up with oil, no leak, I think ha.

    Seems like this transmission I got from the yard been serviced in some type of way, I THINK. Reason I think is because checking the torque converter code tag says it's from a 99 Buick Regal.

    I wonder if there a shift kit already in this Tranny. How will I be able to identify that? Not saying I'll take a chance on it. Just a thought.

    Forward Band is Ok as well.



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    I've seen the converters for W bodies be different from one vehicle to another. It wouldn't surprise me if they used it because of the comp g or something like that. Based on the sludge you found in the pan.. I don't think that trans has been treated too well.
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    The tranny from the yard is from an 05 Grand Prix Supercharged and mine is an 04... I'm able to use a CompG torque converter?

    But I did some more digging and this what I found. To the left is my pan and filter and ti the right is the 05 Grand Prix pan and filter from the Yard. Open the filters up just to compare.

    Is this clutch pieces??

    Tell me what you guys think.

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    Looks kinda like the clutch material off a band. From what you said WSTE and I were under the impression you pulled a transmission from a Comp G. If it wasn't a comp G, then all the better. We can stop worrying about that issue.

    Based on that material in the filter, I wouldn't put that trans into a vehicle and expect it to work well or for long. Since it was in an accident you need to assume it was at least limping around. More to come once I pull the grains out of the beer boil pot and get it boiling.... please hold
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    Now..if we get you a manual.. would you want to rebuild the trans? maybe just do a quick/dirty clutch and band replacement?
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    Yeah, maybe 2/1 band.... Heard Tranny rebuild is quite a super challenging task. I'm up for the challenge. I'll need all the help I can get for sure otherwise, I'll take this tranny back and try to find a 03-05 Park Ave SC or Regal GS SC. Point me in the right direction

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    I was definitely thinking about the CompG trans but you guys, I think, said it wouldn't work. So I moved on ha. Here at the yard now trying to think what's the next best move.

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    If you did a quick and dirty rebuild with only clutches and bands.. it's not so bad. doing seals is where life sucks.
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    Haha ok. You have any clue where I can start for my purchases? Time to get these rookie hands dirty once again

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    Oh...I have plenty. TEP is one of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillBoost37 View Post
    Oh...I have plenty. TEP is one of them.
    TEP? I'm a rook dont forget haha. I might end up just buying the whole rebuild kit and suck it up..... If I go this route. What do you guys think I should do, as far as which Tranny to Choose to rebuild.... My Tranny has 185K to my knowledge and the Yard Tranny has 160K.. You guys already seen the damage in mine and in the Yard Tranny... I have yet to take my Tranny out. But I guess I'll have to do that and take both apart to see what parts to keep...........

    I dont know if small metal fragments in the filter is better than burnt out clutch bands???

    I got those caps and tubes though

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    Figured it out. Triple Edge Performance

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillBoost37 View Post
    If you did a quick and dirty rebuild with only clutches and bands.. it's not so bad. doing seals is where life sucks.

    Agreed! The only "special" tools I use on my rebuild are these:

    Amazon.com: SST-0015 - Universal Lip Seal Installer / Remover Transmission Tool: Automotive

    Amazon.com: Lubegard 19250 Dr. Tranny Assemblee Goo, Green, Firm Tack Lubricant, 16 oz.: Automotive

    Amazon.com: Goplus Automatic Transmission Clutch Spring Compressor Removing / Installing Tool Kit: Home Improvement

    The top tool is for the lip seals, it really isn't the best tool out there, but with some practice, it works well!

    Second one is the lubricant you'll need so that it has some lubricant when you start it up for the first time. I've even shipped a trans halfway cross country and this stuff was still in place! You'll use trans fluid on some things and this on others. Rule of thumb, using more doesn't hurt anything.

    Last tool again, isn't the best one out there, but it gets the job done. On the second clutch I had to cut the tabs off an old steel friction plate I had and use it to "even out" the pressure of the compressor so it doesn't bend the springs, and it doesn't reach one of the clutches, but I have a shop press so I put the top of this tool in it and it worked. you have to get creative unless you want to spend lots of money on a high end spring compressor.

    100% hands down, this is the best video tutorial and manual I used (and still use):

    STOCK DVD VIDEO TRANSMISSION REBUILD OVERHAUL MANUAL 4T65E 4T60-E 4T60E TRANS | eBay

    You can honestly do a rebuild first time in a day or two using this manual, it's that comprehensive and easy to follow.

    Other than that, we're here for any questions or help you might need! If you don't think you can tackle it, I've got a core I'd rebuild if you wanted to make the drive? lol
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