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    I dont think so, I think the issue with the stock fogs melting was due to using higher wattage halogen bulbs. From everything I have read, the Xenon HID bulbs run cooler. Might want to wait until someone more knowledgeable chimes in though, as I still run the 55 watt halogens in mine.

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    At least they coughed up you were getting teles. Perhaps they have received enough emails written in different ways that the english/chinese translator finally got it right....yea, right.

    The message I am trying to share is the perception that there is a warranty or recourse if something is not as you like. I have had issues and know two others who have learned that the deal is one way, buy them and you get what they ship you, period. Wrong color? too bad. Dead out of the box, too bad. ballast creates too much RFI? too bad.

    Of coarse, the good is they are bright and white. Some of us have put much work into getting them to function correctly and now that they are close,they work well.

    Low beam only is really dependent on where you run. I'm on dirt roads or out in no mans land, high beams are king. You will also need them for inspection.
     

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    Which kit do you have? I would really love to have Hi beams, but dont want something that wont work. A little modification does not scare me, but I dont want to have to tear two headlights apart to make one that will work.

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    I have the VVME 9007-3 telescopic. Kinda difficult to take the four pager and condense but here it goes....

    There are two modifications required to get a beam.

    1. Arc centering. The light source placement is critical to achieve a beam out of the headlamp module. BnB did the homework and determined that the HID light source (arc for HID, filament in a halogen) is off by approx 0.10in. This adjustment is easily made since the telescopic lamps are a two piece assm to mount in the headlamp module. BnB showed that a little dremel work to alter the twist and lock position combine with a spacer will get the lamp to the optimal position. In my case,I found a small tie wrap is about the right width and allows the lamp assm locking detent to still function.

    2. Bulb movement. This is more difficult as the 9007/9004 lamps have the filaments aligned vertical. The telescopic HID moves horizontal. The original work has been to reduce the horizontal motion and introduce a tilt action. As the bulb moves horizontally, the beam diffuses into a flood. You need the tilt action for beam elevation. The lamp assm has some tilt action be default due to the loose tolerances of the assm. The horizontal motion can be limited by the addition of non-magnetic spacers internal to the lamp motion solenoid to reduce motion from 0.250 to approx 0.170 range. You will need to check the unmodified motion as I'm told there are two version from the factory, 0.25 and 0.15 travel. Have not heard of the 0.15 travel ...than again, have not seen any one else provide data on lamp motion /placement either.. other than BnB....

    For the perfectionist, the beams are optimized by altering the motion of the lamps closer to tilt action only. This can be accomplished with additional dremel work to increase the width of the guide channels in the bulb mount, addition of a motion stop one side of the assm (force the motion angular). when this is done, the lamp also requires 180 rotation in it's mounting flange.

    This explanation combined with BnB's post should provide you with sufficient information to generate beams, low and high. It may sound complicated but the first two are not. more bark than bite.

    This typed, please consider that you are modifying the lamp assm and you have just written off any chance of that warranty / return, even with the $$ return policy. Respect the lamp. do not touch, oil from the skin will likely have the same effects touching a halogen bulb. I saved and always have the lamp in it's foam when out of the headlamp module.

    May the force be with you.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by webracin View Post
    Which kit do you have? I would really love to have Hi beams, but dont want something that wont work. A little modification does not scare me, but I dont want to have to tear two headlights apart to make one that will work.

    webracin

    i wont post up my reply from the other HID threads, but i have a possible answer on tilting HID's... the seller may be able to do group buy pricing if it works out, just as an FYI ---and no its not VVME -- VVME did actually specify in an email (after some repeated asking) that yes, they were the retracting type
    Last edited by Toasty; 03-15-2008 at 09:56 PM.
     

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    where do we send money?
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    Waiting to see if more people want in on this. I will post up all the info on Wednesday for those interested. Based on all the info coming out about the lights I would have to say Xenon sets are good, but I would wait to find out some more info on the Bi-Xenon.

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    bump, we need some more people, could I count as 2 if I am buying fogs and headlights? lol...
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    i'm in, but i won't able to pay til next week though.
     

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    I am waiting for a email from David as to how he is going to handle these. Looks like we have 7 sets as of now. I will post up as soon as he replies.

    webracin

    PS....yes I counted the guys that want headlights and foglights as 2 orders...

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    count me in for a set of foglights!!!
     

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    Hey guys I'm interested in these.
    I have a quick question because I'm not really up on the HID thing.
    If you go with a low beam does the high beams still work? I guess I'm asking for inspection purposes. Here in NY both high and low beams must be working.
    I also understand that the 04+ guys need to use a relay since the driving lights run at a lower voltage during daytime. Is anyone else aware of this low voltage issue for daytime running lights?
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    Stonewall...

    The 04+ has 2 seperate bulbs, one for Low and one for High, so yes, if you replace the low beams with HID, then you would still have Highs. Its only the 97 to 03 that has the problem of one bulb for both.

    You would need to disable the daytime running lights if you are going the HID route. No switch is needed to do this. There is some debate as to the headlights coming on before the car starts, or the lights flashing with the alarm. Some say it puts alot of wear and tear on the balast, some say its not that much. I have installed a 5 sec delay switch on mine that takes care of both of these potential problems.

    FYI.....for the rest of you, I am still waiting on a email from David as to how he wants to order these.....One big order or individual....as soon as I get a email back from him, I will post up how to order them.

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    OK I'm in for 9006-1 6000K
    I'll just go with the high beam so I don't have to mess with the DRL's.
    Paypal is ready.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stonewall View Post
    OK I'm in for 9006-1 6000K
    I'll just go with the high beam so I don't have to mess with the DRL's.
    Paypal is ready.

    do you really use the high beams all that much? its just my opinion but i think you'd be happier with the lows
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toasty View Post
    do you really use the high beams all that much? its just my opinion but i think you'd be happier with the lows
    That is a valid point and your right. The low beams are used much more than the highs. I suppose I could cover the light sensor on my dash so DRLs will run in full voltage mode. OK I'll go that route. Change me to the 04+ low beams 9005-1 6000K.

    Thanks Toasty.
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    count me in for a set of 9007's
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    Chris.....I don't suppose you can sweet talk him out of a set of H7 fogs for me?

    I'm in for the stock 97-03 headlights though.
     

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    i'll have an idea on monday weather or not the kit i bought on ebay is indeed a tilting hi/low bulb setup.....
     

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    I'm in for a set of lows for a 97-03 what range? 5000K-6000K?

    I have 5000K on the GTP, and LOVE them.
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