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  1. #1 Upper Intake Manifold and Lower Intake Manifold Replacement/Overhaul, due to leaks 
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    I am looking to swap my defective (leaking/warped) L36 upper IM for a better one. Is there a benefit in going to an L26 upper, and/or is it more costly, than just doing the $130 Dorman? Less costly? Does it require more work/parts?

    Please help if you can. I've been trying to figure out the best route to take, and the car is down, and need it back up ASAP.

    I'm also thinking of doing the Lower IM Gaskets at the same time, and possible the HV3 (High Velocity Intake Inserts, supposedly 20-30hp for $200, ZZPerformance).

    Thank you in advance. (FYI, if you didn't figure it out, I have a '99 3.8 GT)

    Edit: I can get an L26 upper IM for $50 at the junk yard. Base on that, please.

    Next, I read about the Lower IM Gaskets:
    Quote Originally Posted by BillBoost37 View Post
    I'm going to rebutt the quackers and agree with you. The UIM doesn't magically go bad on the L36, but what happens is when you remove the TB, there's a tube coming up in a hole in the manifold. Taht's the EGR tube. It heats that area in the UIM and over many heat cycles it'll crack the UIM. Well there's a coolant jacket on the other side of that plastic and it'll leak into the LIM and fill it. In the meantime, you'll burn some coolant. Well...when that crack lets go and coolant pours into the motor, you'll hydrolock.

    It's a good idea to change the UIM when you do the LIM. It's also a good idea to block the coolant passages going into the UIM for the future. That way this can never happen again. See the How to on modding a LIM.
    Where is this "How to on modding a LIM?" I'd like to block the coolant passages going into the Upper IM.

    Lastly, I noticed all the .php videos are gone, what happened to them, can they be restored? I need these:
    http://www.grandprixforums.net/intake_gasket.php
    http://www.grandprixforums.net/lim_lifter_video.php
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  2. #2 Re: Upper Intake Manifold and Lower Intake Manifold Replacement/Overhaul, due to leak 
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    I did some searching and came up with the following:
    Quote Originally Posted by UR LOSN View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by oldsman105 View Post
    Hi.. I am researching a turbo kit for my car and have read about people using the L26/l36 Intake manifold compared to the blocked off M90 case. What are the benefits to this setup compared to the M90 casing?
    Mot of the GTers use the stock L36 UIM....but..the L26 UIM wont shatter under HIGH boost.......

    the L26 is a better option....and with a little modification will fit onto the LIM of a L36.

    the blocked off SC housing is what most SC cars do...as it is little to no modification.

    if you were to add the LIM from a L36/L26....onto your L67/L32....you would have extra injector ports...as the L67 fuel injectors spray through the heads.....

    you would either have to block these ports off....or it would be a good time to add a direct port nitrous kit ontop of it..lol depending on how big you want to go.
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    Now, I'm just wondering what the "little modification" is. A stronger Manifold is better than an updated Dorman manifold incase I ever decide to go with a turbo kit down the road (likely not). I can get the L26 upper for $50 at a junk yard, and the updated Dorman upper L36 is about $75 more than the just the Upper IM gaskets. Looks like the L26 Upper would be cheaper AND better, just takes more time for me to get it.
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    Get the L26 upper intake, it's aluminum and won't have the problems the L36 UIM has.

    And perhaps this is the video you're looking for.
    http://www.cpaclubgp.com/misc/lim-gasket.html
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    Thank you for your reply, and for the video. you wouldn't happen to know what the "little modification" is to get the L26 upper work with the L36 lower would you? Are the throttle bodies, between the two manifolds, interchangeable?
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    Honestly, get this. It's $73 and has the redesigned features by the EGR to prevent another leak. You would come out cheaper this way.
    Amazon.com: Dorman 615-180 Intake Manifold: Automotive
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    If you intend to use the L26 UIM then you need an adapter plate to mate the L36 throttle body to the L26 UIM. Other than that it will bolt up to the L36 LIM. I recommend a google search to see what else is needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brandonl2000 View Post
    Honestly, get this. It's $73 and has the redesigned features by the EGR to prevent another leak. You would come out cheaper this way.
    Amazon.com: Dorman 615-180 Intake Manifold: Automotive
    Thank you for that. Why didn't I think of that??? I was thinking only a local autoparts store would have it. Duh!

    Actually, I found a few cheaper, in fact:
    $65shipped search.ebay.com/270869364114 (Edit: this has a broken clip on one of the gaskets)
    $40shipped search.ebay.com/170718961947 (Edit: this is one is just a gasket, Dorman updated the part number to 615-207)
    Quote Originally Posted by The Guz View Post
    If you intend to use the L26 UIM then you need an adapter plate to mate the L36 throttle body to the L26 UIM. Other than that it will bolt up to the L36 LIM. I recommend a google search to see what else is needed.
    Now, that's what I wanted to know! Thank you. I knew there had to be more than just a "little modification." I just searched and found out that it's a $100 adapter plate from zzperformance. Forget that! I can make a batch of 10 for $300 at the machine shop, but why!?!?!

    Forget it, I'm sticking to Dorman.

    Just like anything I do, I always research to find the best possible solution before taking one step. Looks like the best solution is just going with the updated Dorman ... that is unless I was going to get a turbo kit down the road, which I'm not.

    Thank you for all the help.
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  9. #9 Re: Upper Intake Manifold and Lower Intake Manifold Replacement/Overhaul, due to leak 
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    I'm glad you were able to find what you needed

    I agree, take the cheaper route. The L26 UIM is great if you just really want to get away from the plastic.
    But in practical uses, the new revised dorman L36 UIM will last you the rest of the life of the car.
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