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    Yesterday, while driving about 40 mph, when I tried to accelerate, the trans acted like it was in neutral--no drive, no reverse. There was no noise--it acted like I shifted to neutral. Car has 166,000 miles, but I've only had it two years, so don't know the previous history, but suspect the trans was rebuilt at least once.

    Had the car towed to our local transmission shop. Tech says $2,300 for rebuild with a two year, 24,000 mile warranty. He has done others like this and suspects the converter failed. In his opinion, the small torque converter is the weak point with these GXP transmissions. They have an Impala there right now with the identical drive train and similar failure.

    I plan to go ahead with the rebuild, but would like to hear if any of you have info that would help prevent this from recurring.
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    unfortunately the transmission is the weak point of the transmission. There are parts you can buy to toughen it up but, if you don't beat the crap out of it the basic rebuild should last you.

    better converter, shift kit, input shaft are a few things that come to mind. check out triple edge performance so see what they have. don't know how long you can go with out your car to figure out your best options

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    Quote Originally Posted by bocoogto View Post
    Yesterday, while driving about 40 mph, when I tried to accelerate, the trans acted like it was in neutral--no drive, no reverse. There was no noise--it acted like I shifted to neutral. Car has 166,000 miles, but I've only had it two years, so don't know the previous history, but suspect the trans was rebuilt at least once.

    Had the car towed to our local transmission shop. Tech says $2,300 for rebuild with a two year, 24,000 mile warranty. He has done others like this and suspects the converter failed. In his opinion, the small torque converter is the weak point with these GXP transmissions. They have an Impala there right now with the identical drive train and similar failure.

    I plan to go ahead with the rebuild, but would like to hear if any of you have info that would help prevent this from recurring.
    Get that quote in writing, that seems very low. Also ask about the components they will be using for the rebuild, as it was already stated there are some parts that would be a good upgrade to use. Any good reputable shop knows all about the shortcomings of these transmissions, make sure you ask about any options before they start. Good luck, post back your outcome.
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    As I stated, this shop has done quite a few of these transmissions on Impalas and Pontiac Grand Prix's. It's a local reputable shop, so I have no qualms about the quoted price or warranty. Their estimate on completion is two weeks out due to how busy they are.

    Technician says the weak point is the torque converter and a larger one is not possible because of the bell housing design. The converter has a lock-up clutch, which may be what failed.

    I'm looking for specific suggestions on what components are available that would improve reliability. I'm also hoping this rebuild gets rid of the nasty shudder that shakes the car every time I stop in "Drive."
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    That shudder may be a motor mount, and should be changed if accessible when getting the transmission rebuilt. Sonnax , Superior Transmission Parts, or TransGo all make upgraded components. The shop will already know about these but its up to you to ask for any options.
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    Another thing is ask the shop if they use the standard stack of clutches per the manual or if they check clearance etc. A shop that knows these transmissions very well will not put the standard number of clutches/plates in and consider it fine as they are known to have a bit of excess slop in the packs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bocoogto View Post
    Technician says the weak point is the torque converter and a larger one is not possible because of the bell housing design. The converter has a lock-up clutch, which may be what failed.
    I would make sure whatever TC they use is top quality. Can't stress this enough. I saw a GM srta trans give up the ghost in under 50k. TCC shredded and sent grit through the whole thing.

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    also add in an auxiliary trans cooler if you don't have one already.
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    Talked to technician today. He ordered the kit from TransGo. I called TransGo and they said they have only one kit for this transmission. Technician also said he ordered a premium converter. His experience with these transmissions is that failure to use premium rebuild components results in too many failures, which cost the shop money honoring the warranty.
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