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  1. #1 5 speed swap into a 97-03 gtp 
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    How hard is it to swap a 5 speed into a 97-03 gtp? Anyone have a parts list?
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    complete interior is removed, includign dash,

    you need, a donor car, and some welding, modifactions to the parts from the parts car..

    then you need a camaro flywheel machined down


    count on 40hrs or so for the swap
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    getrag 282 or 284
    camaro fly wheel with longer bolts
    pedal assembaly
    new clutch
    best to get a z34 or gp donor car
    01 GTP is3 cam 130 springs double roller 60lb injectors lq4 maf headers 4000 stall lowered
    sold 97 GTP stock
    Sold 2001 gp gt ssm90 plog dp 3.8 208 whp 265 at the crank 14.8 1/4
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    what would needed to be welded? i'm curious cause the only slight welding was for the pedal assembly in your thread on wbody.
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    583 whp? holy moly! mine was 215 stock, I think
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    I noticed you are saying 40+ hrs to do the swap. kinda seems like thats going the hard way. I mean you're not doing a rear wheel drive setup, can you post anything on doing the swap? pics?...what is all needed for the swap from a donor car?
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    kuntize knows his **** about the manual swaps...After watching his threads, and all the pics, info he's said, it's pretty clear..

    Not to mention blowing up the tranny now..
    What tranny is going in now kuntzie??

    And it would be ****ing awesome if you could do a write-up of some sort, because I'd love to do it to my car....and I know others would...

    sorry bout the thread jacking

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    The 5 spd was what made mine fun to drive. It was solid, too. Thought it has syncro problems initially, but it was the clutch and hydraulics
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    i only blew up the trans because of my own stupidity,

    40hrs is the hard way are you kidding me? the whole interior has to get gutted and the trans and engine (engine optional but id suggest it) have to come out,

    there is a write up on here i posted from another site where i made a thread (w-body.com)

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    Kuntzie's 01 Turbo GT 5-speed thread----- pg 10 extra special sunday delivery!!

    if someone is anexious enough to copy all my posts over to here into 1 thread go ahead and do er up
    02 Grand Prix GT Intercooled turbo 5-speed 718whp 618wtq @ 21psi 7575 billet, spool valve, custom manifolds, 4" downpipe, 16way adjustable coilovers, 18x9.5 with 275's all around, gxp interior, gxp brakes
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    That's pretty awesome!

    I hate automatics. They always break.

    The worst I've ever had happen with a manual is either needing a clutch, hydraulics, or shifter work. We did have a PT Cruiser where syncro in 5th stopped working well, and you had to count to 3 or 4 before putting into 5th, but thats the worst I've seen, and I've even road raced one for 10 years, now, and even THAT one is still working great.
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    thats amazing! overall how much did the 5speed swap cost? wanna know if its even within reach for my 98 GTP lol
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    ~900 in parts + parts car, they can be had ubber cheap as most get rid of them when they need a clutch
    02 Grand Prix GT Intercooled turbo 5-speed 718whp 618wtq @ 21psi 7575 billet, spool valve, custom manifolds, 4" downpipe, 16way adjustable coilovers, 18x9.5 with 275's all around, gxp interior, gxp brakes
    tilton triple disc, custom aluminum flywheel, tilton slave and master, an awful lot more
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    Hmmm..that's not nearly as bad as I thought it would be....
    What are the compatible donor cars??

    "**** bills. You can live in your car but you can't race your house" -dsmuts
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    Quote Originally Posted by machinegunsquid View Post
    Hmmm..that's not nearly as bad as I thought it would be....
    What are the compatible donor cars??
    Would like to know this as well. Sounds like a hell of a project.
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    yeah really i may actualy try to start saving to do this cuz that was my only complaint about getting the GTP.
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    91-93 chevy lumina, pontiac gp, and olds cutlass. I only have a 284 trans, not the other parts.
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    So what's the difference between a 282 and a 284?
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    You said "I'm done with it"... car says "Oh, really? *trollface*"
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobC View Post
    91-93 chevy lumina, pontiac gp, and olds cutlass. I only have a 284 trans, not the other parts.
    Since the thanks button has been replaced by that stupid 'like' button BS, I must quote you to thank you for your answer .
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    The 282 is junk
    02 Grand Prix GT Intercooled turbo 5-speed 718whp 618wtq @ 21psi 7575 billet, spool valve, custom manifolds, 4" downpipe, 16way adjustable coilovers, 18x9.5 with 275's all around, gxp interior, gxp brakes
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    So 284 it is then.
    "Cry Havoc! And Let Slip the Dogs of War!"
    Black 2000 GTP: 3.4" Pulley, Resonator/U-bend delete, 180 T-stat, Tuned PCM, Thrasher Intake, Larger Radiator, 17" Konig Tantrum Wheels, Red Air Dams. Coming Soon...Projectors, Lighting Mods, Transmission Cooler, Black Rims, Tinted Tails and hopefully Headers
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